wing chun praha

od **rockyjoe** » stř 09. bře, 2011 14:35

PS2

I forgot.
I don t speak czech,and I live a little bit out of Prague.
So I don t speak czech,and here the people is not so interested to communicate with me in english.at work too.

I have only one thing that I like,and training helps me to stay better in this adverse environment I have to face all the days.it is my project for myself.MY PROJECT FOR MYSELF and for who wants to follow.

I am not dignus to teach anything,and I don t want to survive here teaching wing chun 30euro for kg.Basically I am in Prague only for work.But in life we are not called only tio satisfy as workers,but as men too.

I have no truth to spread out!I can only point on my person,here.My honesty and my passion in the thing in object.
Maybe martial arts overcome language limits.The few friends I have here,I knew for martial arts.Differently,no one would have approached me.because is tiring for most of you speak in english!I know!

But now,
the fact is that I train in Judo,because at the least I find useful for me.good environment,not so much money here.But I would continue to do wing chun,if I can.

Someone wants to practice wing chun with me?

od **reccol** » stř 09. bře, 2011 14:55

You've already got your answer. Read the message from MartinCZ again. He suggested Jan Novák sifu, or Luen on this website. For practise you WCH, try to contact him.

od **rockyjoe** » stř 09. bře, 2011 15:16

reccol píše:You've already got your answer. Read the message from MartinCZ again. He suggested Jan Novák sifu, or Luen on this website. For practise you WCH, try to contact him.

And I have already answered.I will go.

I observe,en passant,that you have already a person in which believe.others don t exist!

Until now I have not done publicity to anyone,even to the people I consider good.I only wanted to create a group of study,independent from all.free to study with all masters but without any link.
Maybe this person is a good teacher and he is serious.I will taste it.But I continue to search here,because I want to practice my dream of wing chun.The same I will say to otherdifferent lineage masters.

martial art is not only tecnic,and not only body!

We will see.

In case,if I realize this group,I will ask him to give us stages,if he is so good!I hope more in collaboration

od **rockyjoe** » stř 09. bře, 2011 15:38

I don t want misunderstandings.
for me self defence doesn t exist.

the second one:in my country already teaches thai boxing,selling it as wing chun.I don t say this is the case.

But I research something very specific.

I am not here to ask you

EHI GUYS,WHICH COURSE DO YOU SUGGEST ME?WHAT IS THE BETTER?

I am here to search friends who want to share some walk together,and divide difficulties.So I can refer to different teacher,if they have something good to offer,but I have my own idea to follow.

If it is only efficiency,I would follow a muay thai course,or MMA course(arts that have shown efficiency in real fighting,while wing chun not).I search the spirit of wing chun.it is a little bit different.Fot this reason I am searching for friends that do kickboxing sparring,in order to do sparring with them too(and they,if want can participate to my project too,or only training sparring with me,without giving me any money),and myself I do judo sparring in the course I attend.there I can do free Chi sao,even if the goal is different.
I want to built my own reality.and maybe som one helps me in the path.but no one has to decide which is my path.I don t search for Masters,I already have(far away).

just that

If you are not interested,let read the people that can be interested.
I only ask that.

Maybe I understand it smells for you.I can't do nothing.not virtually,at the least.maybe we can know,if you want.what more can I do?

od **roza** » stř 09. bře, 2011 19:33

rockyjoe
no,I´m not asking you about age,I'd ask"Whats your age?" if so.
I´m asking about your wingchun experience,how long you practice.

From the historical point of view,as you mentioned - yes,you guys had earlier oportunity to buy Leung Tings holy shit than us.Thats all.This is what I mean with:"you suppose us being monkeys who just climbed down the trees".But dont waste the time on it.

I don´t criticise your idea even thought I find it a bit infant,but I criticise the way you introduce it to us.
The way you overdose the page with the long posts,with the expressive terms in uppercase......people tend to be allergic sometimes :wink:

no matter your idea is.

No need to calm us down with:"No one must sign contracts with me..."

No one would.Why should we?......It shows that you do not understand the situation in MA here.

You say:"If I listen to you,I would think that any problem(or this kind of problems),it is impossible to resolve. "
No ,you do not understand - all I tried to say was :We do not have a problem to resolve.You have.If you ask,we could try to help you.
But no one is interested in your :"Hey you former commies bastards,you have a problem and I´m here to save you."

Gone with the wind are the times,when we were interested in tales of superiority and uniqueness of wingchun,or BruceLee or other bad actors,or if FokYou was a student of FokMee or reversely.

To help you with your "PROJECT" I suggest:
Don´t call it that way.
Check up the real situation here.
Write shorter posts.
Give us some pictures or better,a videos of you or your "Master".

This could help to move us from the point.

No offence

od **rockyjoe** » čtv 10. bře, 2011 10:02

roza píše:rockyjoe
no,I´m not asking you about age,I'd ask"Whats your age?" if so.
I´m asking about your wingchun experience,how long you practice.

From the historical point of view,as you mentioned - yes,you guys had earlier oportunity to buy Leung Tings holy shit than us.Thats all.This is what I mean with:"you suppose us being monkeys who just climbed down the trees".But dont waste the time on it.

I don´t criticise your idea even thought I find it a bit infant,but I criticise the way you introduce it to us.
The way you overdose the page with the long posts,with the expressive terms in uppercase......people tend to be allergic sometimes no matter your idea is.

No need to calm us down with:"No one must sign contracts with me..." No one would.Why should we?......It shows that you do not understand the situation in MA here.

You say:"If I listen to you,I would think that any problem(or this kind of problems),it is impossible to resolve. "
No ,you do not understand - all I tried to say was :We do not have a problem to resolve.You have.If you ask,we could try to help you.
But no one is interested in your :"Hey you former commies bastards,you have a problem and I´m here to save you."

Gone with the wind are the times,when we were interested in tales of superiority and uniqueness of wingchun,or BruceLee or other bad actors,or if FokYou was a student of FokMee or reversely.

To help you with your "PROJECT" I suggest:
Don´t call it that way.
Check up the real situation here.
Write shorter posts.
Give us some pictures or better,a videos of you or your "Master".

This could help to move us from the point.

No offence

sorry,english is not my mothertongue

but you are right,maybe I would have introduced differently.If you read,I didn t mention the organization which hold the seminar.I just wanted to use this experience in the sense that,who think to have this kind of teacher or environment,begins to ask himself anything(Even if is other organization,and not only which you are thinking.I didn t metino because I wanted to mark the experience itself,and not the persons of the seminar.as human beings anyway,no one is perfect.so the same maybe can happen in other clubs..do you understand what I mean?).
So I didn speak to satisfied people of Mai Gei ,Lok Yiu, Leung Ting,etc,but to unsatisfied(who recognize to be unsatisfied)people of the above lineage.Now it would be clear.

So maybe I am wrong as I introduced the subject,but please note the following:I never said you would sign anything,so your question WHY SHOULD WE? make not so much sense for me:it is only to say that I don t want be rich because of wing chun.I only want to cultivate the idea that I consider to be right,different form the example that I used(independently from the organization who did that).The help I expect,is in the person who want to go out from experiences similar to that I had spoken above.Who share an idea.
when you say I don t understand the situation of MA here,maybe it is,but I feel the same sense of allergy here about wing chun as in my Country,even from you(I am not saying you have not good reasons for this).in this,we feel all the same,you and me!misconfiance.

I said I have a problem,and someone else can have too,and it sounds different from how you understood my words.I marked I am not a Sifu or a Guru.I said I AM NOT JESUS,I only want to save myself.That is what I said.I introduced myself as a normal person passionate,but I meet here the same difficulties(in communication too) in wing chun that I could have in my country.The only possibility is to create something good for me(and,I said,only eventually for other people who has my same ideas)

continue...

od **rockyjoe** » čtv 10. bře, 2011 10:18

now some question,for curiosity.

1)Here you are tired of tales you heard a lot of times about history(this doesn t mean some history is not true and anyway I am not using the history to mark the superiority of any lineage.I believe in good masetrs and not in abstract lineage,even if I study the history of lineages,to understand what I do in comparison sometimes with that other people does).So it is not problem of lineage.
2)Here you don t speak(maybe I am wrong)about technic in wing chun(I can understand that any lineage has is own interpretation and so is useless to discuss,because each one wants always to be the best.me not,I don t want to be the best in this sense,I want only to accomplish my idea,better and easier if I have some support)

So the basic question would be:
1)what is the sense of this forum?what do you speak about?why do you read here?
only promoting events maybe(I saw there is a list of wing chun schools in Prague)?and if I have not website and not photos with sit down chinese supermaster ,how can people know about my existance?have I to put some publicity on news papers? I am playing now.ok.
So I am just here to say I have this project.I am promoving myself in a way.I am not saying that mine is the best wing chun in the world.
Why project and not school for example?because a school is something more regular and established,with more formal relationship between students and master(master with certification).and as I said,I don t "sell" myself as a master with super technics.

My experience in wx?formally 9 years about.I could say 1 year,the last one,because it was the more formative..and the remainig was (this would be too long,and I don t know if would be boring for you all)[/img]

od **roza** » čtv 10. bře, 2011 12:41

rockyjoe
Ok,clearer now.

The question WHY SHOULD WE? was just to describe todays situation - no one would even think of it since the end of 90´.It was a simple example of the difference between your idea of contemporary state here and the reality.This forum helped a lot to get the scene rid of alike shits.

To your questions:
The sense of the forum is to discuss anything.So we did for years.Unfortunately you are limited by language to check the list of the topics.It seems,everything has been discussed hundred times and the threads are frozen until new interesting topic comes.
As you can see,your one does not seem to be much interesting,according to reactions.....

The only one,who waste time on your topic is me,coz I am bored in my office....and feel sorry a bit for your situation.

You do not need a website,link the simple youtube video,I told you before.
Not sitting chinese supermaster,but moving anyone.And let us choose.

Good luck

od **rockyjoe** » čtv 10. bře, 2011 13:22

good.
Now we uderstood one each other.I am really happy for this!

I have not video.Neither my school in my country.It is a choice.I don t thik to be so good to represent something.

Anyway if someone wants to ask,to see,or simply to chat about wing chun,about point ov view,I will have the pleasure to participate(if language allow me,of course).

I am in an office tto,and just today I will know if they extend my contract or not!
I hope they will do,of course

I beg all your perdon if I was too much invasive.

I hope we continue as wing chun brothers.

http://www.youtube.com/user/cfwckt · od **luen** » čtv 10. bře, 2011 16:23

Ahoj rockyjoe,

jestli chces, tak se stav u nas na treninku ... muzes si dat s nama nas trenink, sparring ...

Moje anglictina je bidna, takze radeji pisi cesky.

Treninky mame:

http://www.wingcheun.org/node/93

Utery a ctvrtek od 19:00h do 20:30h :wink:

Jinak lidi z tohoto serveru se napric bu/bs schazeji pravidelne, neni nutne kvuli tomu nic zakladat :idea:

Tesim se

od **rockyjoe** » pon 14. bře, 2011 9:23

luen píše:Ahoj rockyjoe,

jestli chces, tak se stav u nas na treninku ... muzes si dat s nama nas trenink, sparring ...

Moje anglictina je bidna, takze radeji pisi cesky.

Treninky mame:

http://www.wingcheun.org/node/93

Utery a ctvrtek od 19:00h do 20:30h

Jinak lidi z tohoto serveru se napric bu/bs schazeji pravidelne, neni nutne kvuli tomu nic zakladat

Tesim se

Ahoj,
I am using the translater,
so I am not sure to understand.

I understand here sometimes you organize some informal meeting for training.

If I have understood well, let me know when.

I live a little bit out of Prague.So in cases like those, I need the time to organize.

Tx

od **roza** » pon 14. bře, 2011 15:46

rockyjoe

Luen invites you to his school to have a chat,practise,sparring or whatever.

Tuesday and Thursday 7-8:30 PM.Find the link to the map on his pages if you want to know the place.

Where do you live now?

od **rockyjoe** » úte 15. bře, 2011 9:18

roza píše:rockyjoe

Luen invites you to his school to have a chat,practise,sparring or whatever.

Tuesday and Thursday 7-8:30 PM.Find the link to the map on his pages if you want to know the place.

Where do you live now?

ok ok

let me have the time to organize a little.

anyway I was informed by all you that you have already discussed all in the wing chun world.So I change a little the subject.

Why here in czech republic don t exist international (american, french,ecc)martial reviews?
and why is not podssible to find here important publications about martial arts even in other languages?

about wing chun there is only a book, but it seems to be not exactly wing chun.

there is a kind of recension here, for which I used the translator.and I saw this book in a book shop.Obviously I didn t buy it,and not for language problems..

this is only curiosity!

maybe you already discussed, I am sorry

od **Marty** » úte 15. bře, 2011 10:01

Now it´s clear to me. You´re not wing chun practitioner. You´re martial art books collector, aren´t you?

od **Marty** » úte 15. bře, 2011 10:02

sorry. double

od **toddb** » úte 15. bře, 2011 10:22

rockyjoe píše:Why here in czech republic don t exist international (american, french,ecc)martial reviews?
and why is not podssible to find here important publications about martial arts even in other languages?about wing chun there is only a book, but it seems to be not exactly wing chun.(

How the hell are we supposed to know this, man? Go and write an email to book publishers, sorry mate, but how old are you? You want books,then order them at Amazon.com.

od **toddb** » úte 15. bře, 2011 10:23

tady ten rockyjoe to musí bejt nákej vtip, člověk co si zkouší angličtinu

od **roza** » úte 15. bře, 2011 10:28

rockyjoe
kidding,huh?
Sure you can get all the "BlackBelt,KungFu,MartialArt....etc" shit,whats the problem,especially in Prague?

Don´t twist "its not possible" with "I don´t know how".Ask.

Let me help you,Iĺl tell you a magic word - you don´t have to pay or sign me anything

.The word is AMAZON,repeat it 3 times,then sign on it,it takes 5 mins to choose whatever you want,then close your eyes and wait 5 days and the miracle is done :wink:

Welcome to the 21st century,buddy :lol:

Seriously now - there is nothing like a "important publications about martial arts" as Marty picked up previously.Is an contradiction in itself.

Your boat turns a little "cabaret" way .....

od **rockyjoe** » úte 15. bře, 2011 14:39

Marty píše:Now it´s clear to me. You´re not wing chun practitioner. You´re martial art books collector, aren´t you?

how many conclusion without knowing people...eh eh

Yes I like to read about what I like.

If I liked Motorbikes, I would buy other kind of reviews.

Sometimes you can learn more,reading,if you are objective and not influenced,about what you read.

it is the same for politics and the newspapers..

you have to find your truth.what you use to search,is only a tool.

Anyway I like only ione review, from France.

od **rockyjoe** » úte 15. bře, 2011 14:40

toddb píše:
rockyjoe píše:Why here in czech republic don t exist international (american, french,ecc)martial reviews?
and why is not podssible to find here important publications about martial arts even in other languages?about wing chun there is only a book, but it seems to be not exactly wing chun.(

How the hell are we supposed to know this, man? Go and write an email to book publishers, sorry mate, but how old are you? You want books,then order them at Amazon.com.

I don t want books

I only want a monthly review.

So I ask.

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